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grace
@ Thursday, March 11th 2010, 2:03 PM
Suntan
@ Sunday, April 4th 2010, 11:57 PM
The refection works. I saw it right away. Your faces always have such strong features in them, very defined. Her hair is amazing. Well, it all is, but those fine strands of hair,, I have seen you do before and I seem to always look for a long time at them. ha. *must try*
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Suntan
@ Wednesday, March 10th 2010, 6:17 PM
Suntan @ Tuesday, July 8th 2008, 4:49 PM [Edit] If this can be moved to CC, I would like to start that. I tried a few time in there, but nothing was coming and this time it did....over 2 hours worth, DID! unheard of! :) This is what my untrained eye sees after posting. ~eyes are too big ~eyes too close together? ~eyes are unnatural green ~eyes gazing in same direction? ~her left nostril too small ~not enough definition in the lips ~shading on the bottom jaw line jagged<--but I DID call it Smudged! haha;P) Other than that I like it! lol! unheard of! ;p TheManInWhite @ Tuesday, July 8th 2008, 5:13 PM [Edit] [Delete] I dont think this belongs in CC at all...I think it looks great! The shine in her eyes is great, and the little bit of light reflected on her nose is good too. And the patterning on her collar is a nice touch. I think I saw this unfinished, and i believe the corners of the mouth are slightly different from that version, not exactly upturned, but not as downturned ;) I think you did a great job on it Sun! :D Oh brother...Do I need to pull a "Xina54" on you Sun, and challenge you to list what you like about it???? ;) Don't make me dare you! ;) (Edited on July 8, 2008, 5:16 pm) Suntan @ Tuesday, July 8th 2008, 5:17 PM [Edit] [Delete] Well, thanks very much! I've been wanting to get in there though. Like i said I tried a few times and it just wasn't working so now that something came out, I would like to get better at this...and this one is all mine which is all the more reason to get in there. Not knowing what I'm doing really..has always left me wondering what the next step should be for it to look more finished and/or polished. **LOL! ..i said i like everything elseee! which is unlike me! >< (Edited on July 8, 2008, 5:18 pm) emigre @ Tuesday, July 8th 2008, 5:19 PM [Edit] [Delete] Oh i think its a very good job : first i dont think anyone is perfectly symetrical lol :) i like the hair and the light on her nose makes me think about she is in the traffic, in a car, after a long evening out, going back home :) but her eyes are still alive :) i like it thats all : nothing is wrong there to me :) Suntan @ Tuesday, July 8th 2008, 5:25 PM [Edit] [Delete] You're right, emi. No one is perfect and for that reason, she could stay the way she is..but I want to know what mistakes in anatomy and painting anatomy that I have made. Thanks very much! I wanted her to be a clown, semi-tragic, perhaps, and finished for the night. That's one of the reasons her make up is smudged. :) qtgillie @ Tuesday, July 8th 2008, 7:23 PM [Edit] [Delete] I will not CC this, you have already done it all Sunny. What do you need us for anyway? I do like this. Not sure why, but I thought most of your draws were origional. The clownish look here is great. The two things that do stand out for me are that the eyes are off of the same plane (look at where the two eyes come together on each side of the nose. Her left one is higher than the her right one. And, as you already stated, the nostrils are a bit off. I like the saturated painterly style on this. Meno @ Tuesday, July 8th 2008, 8:17 PM [Edit] [Delete] The Tears of a Clown -------------------- (Smokey Robinson & The Miracles) Now if there's a smile on my face, it's only there tryin' to fool the public, but when it comes down to foolin' you; Now honey, that's quite a different subject. But don't let my glad expression give you the wrong impression. Really I'm sad. I'm sadder than sad. You're gone and I'm hurtin' so bad. Like a clown I pretend to be glad. (chorus) Now there's some sad things known to man, but ain't too much sadder than the tears of a clown when there's no one around. Now if I appear to be carefree, it's only to camouflage my sadness. In order to keep my pride I try to cover the hurt with a show of gladness. But don't let my show convince you that I've been happy since you decided to go. Oh, I need you so. I'm hurt and I want you to know. (chorus) Just like Pagliacci did, I try to keep my sadness hid. (aaargh! I can't remember! It'll come to me and I'll send it along.) But in my lonely room I cry the tears of a clown when there's no one around. http://www.lyricz.net/m/miracles/75948 (As requested, Ms. Sun) (Edited on July 8, 2008, 9:44 pm) Suntan @ Tuesday, July 8th 2008, 8:29 PM [Edit] [Delete] Gillie, thank you!..My art is my own unless otherwise credited to the original artist. Even if I don't know their name, I mention it. ...and I need you who are so much better to help. Me and others. I listed what I saw and believe me, that is growth in itself. But I know there must be more! I wasn't always able to see those things, but I knew I didn't like what I saw. I also find it very hard to sit for any length of time and draw. I want it done NOW..u know what I mean. So, i need help to try and get better and hopefully with time, less frustrating. I hope that answers your question. :) * i see exactly what you are talking about with her eyes..i think i put that one higher because her head is slightly tilted. Do you think each eye is looking in the same direction? That always bothers me. Suntan @ Tuesday, July 8th 2008, 8:31 PM [Edit] [Delete] Thank you, Meno. Do you have a link? REECREATIVEDESIGNS @ Tuesday, July 8th 2008, 8:53 PM [Edit] [Delete] Suntan, your a very fine artist. I like this, love the red on the nose. If I'm being honest...the only thing that sticks out for me is the eyes. The one is not in line with the other, being higher and they seem too far apart. That is the only thing that sticks out for me. The height of them not being uniform. Since you wanted it in cc, that is my opinion. I'm not perfect with my draws and far from it and I don't think most of us are. It is what makes our work original to our own with or without a ref. pic. I really like the dark blk around the eyes coming down on to her cheeks and the red nose, skin coloring and all else here. This is a great drawing so don't beat yourself up too badly. Love your work here! Suntan @ Tuesday, July 8th 2008, 9:26 PM [Edit] [Delete] No, REE, I'm not beating myself up on this one. I've been thinking about doing a drawing for the CC studio, but when I tried it just didn't flow and with this one it did. So I was hoping to get it moved, if that is possible for the Admins here to do. So I thank you for the cc! It's good to get honest opinions, which is the point of that studio/and or asking for cc. You and Gillie have pointed out the eyes to me, so maybe it is something I really need to look at again. You see how it is fun to learn this stuff. I never picked that up because I thought I tilted the head enough. Again, something I need to think about more. Thanks, too, for pointing out the distance between them. I was thinking they are too close, but they do look far apart. I don't know which it is. I had learned that an eye space should be between them. Maybe it's the size of them that is wrong. Another thing I need to finalize and learn. A good constant reminder, like coming back to read this, will hopefully help me remember for next time. Thanks, REE!
qtgillie
@ Wednesday, July 9th 2008, 1:19 AM
grace
@ Wednesday, July 9th 2008, 1:37 AM
ptrice
@ Wednesday, July 9th 2008, 2:32 AM
Grace says so well what I have been struggling to find words to tell you "...your work has an astonishing amount of personal style and expression; more so than many other artists who have more technical skill, so I am reluctant to 'mess' with that. I guess I have a little worry that if your style becomes too polished it will lose some of it's very unique quality."
As far as this piece, very impressive modeled mouth but maybe because of the eyes looks more like a clown doll more than a human clown. I will say I've seen many things of yours that are very polished looking, but now you are getting color down?
Xina54
@ Wednesday, July 9th 2008, 3:26 AM
Suntan
@ Wednesday, July 9th 2008, 7:47 AM
Wow..wooo, much thanks, Grace! I completely missed the vertical shading on the bridge AND the shift of the nose, mouth and chin over to the shaded side of her face! I can see what a difference sliding them to the right (our right)would make. Thank you! Also, the shortness between nose and lip, which on this, now I can see would make her chin seem large or long. In shi, I'm always moving the chin to shorted it!
The eyes, the eyes!...the size always bugs me. I do the same thing on paper..and I'm always unsatisfied because all my faces DO have a baby doll sort of look to them which I always wanted to know WHY and don't always want! Thanks for the really very nice words about my work. You know the struggle I have with it and I know you've told me before. I want to believe it but I just have a hard time doing it...hopefully I am gaining on that, though. This studio is going to be a great help. I hope everyone takes advantage of it from time to time with whatever they may be struggling with in whatever form of art they are doing. I also hope, that everyone will feel like they can have input, too. I am self taught (aside from what I learn here and pick brains of artists I know) and I am always afraid to tell or point out something to other artists because "I don't really know." Now I will say what I see and then someone can come along and either agree or correct me. Learning is a great thing. ;P
Suntan
@ Wednesday, July 9th 2008, 7:54 AM
Thank you, joyce. You have been a wonderful encouraging support for so long. It's a great feeling to have people believe in you and I really appreciate it. :)
horsefeather
@ Wednesday, July 9th 2008, 8:25 AM
grace
@ Wednesday, July 9th 2008, 12:03 PM
flubbles
@ Wednesday, July 9th 2008, 12:12 PM
I respond by twisting there nipple really hard!
grace
@ Wednesday, July 9th 2008, 2:28 PM
StGeorgeOfEngland
@ Wednesday, July 9th 2008, 3:16 PM
Oh lordy! I am eloquent? Why thank you kind Grace. I will definitely be your tour guide now. I don't see you having any problems in CC, I don't think that the people here are of that nature. As I commented somewhere else, it will be an enter if you want to studio. If you choose to draw there you are asking advice and will readily accept it. The key word being CONSTRUCTIVE.
Suntan
@ Wednesday, July 9th 2008, 4:38 PM
hahah...you know i completely forgot to say to you, Grace, that I lamo at the '"broken nose" or brawl comment. It does look a bit bloody! That was hilarious. LOL!
You know, you're right about how to handle the cc, Grace. I was seriously fatigued by it all! lol, sounds funny, but it was a lot to take in. At first, I thought I would want to try and do everything that was suggested to the piece, but I can see exactly what you mean by stepping back and letting it all sink in. IT can feel overwhelming when you begin to seriously read it all. (which I've done a hundred times by now haha) I'm not sure if I will ever do any corrections on this piece or just keep coming back to it for helpful reminders when I do a new one. cc is a weird and wonderful thing. First time for everything! ;) (Edited on July 10, 2008, 7:00 am)
flubbles
@ Thursday, July 10th 2008, 8:00 PM
Looks like a female clown :P Ive not read the comments so its probobly already been said lol i liek it though sunny :P
Suntan
@ Thursday, July 10th 2008, 8:34 PM
But flubbs...thank you..but this is cc. what about it you see could be better on it. <---i do speak english from time to time, i have no idea what language that is. haha ;p
Suntan
@ Friday, July 11th 2008, 9:14 AM
lol, Bwaak, bwaak, bwaaak! ;p ....i thought it as a joke and in good humor, flub ;p
ween23
@ Tuesday, September 2nd 2008, 1:27 AM
Suntan
@ Sunday, April 4th 2010, 11:59 PM
Hi ween,
it's been so long since I've seen this..it's weird looking at it. It's weird anyway. haha. >< |
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emigre
@ Friday, March 5th 2010, 4:19 PM
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Meno
@ Tuesday, September 2nd 2008, 2:17 PM
Joan Jett? Chrissie Hynde? (Both are kick ass rock 'n roll brunettes :D) This is FABULOUS, Emi!
StGeorgeOfEngland
@ Tuesday, September 2nd 2008, 4:33 PM
No idea who it is but its a great drawing. She is showing us some serious 'tude!
Sort of reminded me that we haven't seen Vere for a while. Ahh well, people come and go.
TheManInWhite
@ Tuesday, September 2nd 2008, 6:54 PM
This is such a great drawing Emi! :D I love how she comes out from the black background and how the different colors define her musculature and show the highlights, even in her hair! Awesome, awesome draw! :D I have no idea who it is, but it looks great! :D
REECREATIVEDESIGNS
@ Tuesday, September 2nd 2008, 7:09 PM
Loving this one...no clue who it is, but whoever she is you have done a fine job on her. I love it! Everything about it.
sparky7
@ Tuesday, September 2nd 2008, 9:32 PM
"Wow"!! This is really "awesome"! I have no idea who she might be....but it's a great draw!!!
ptrice
@ Wednesday, September 3rd 2008, 4:17 AM
So powerful - it "leaps off the page!" I think Joan Jett...
Suntan
@ Wednesday, September 3rd 2008, 5:45 AM
I Loveeee rock and roll put another dime in the jukebox babyyyy...Me, too. And I love this painting! awesome job, emi. :)
emigre
@ Wednesday, September 3rd 2008, 11:38 AM
not Joan :) maybe you need a clue... erm... She played in a trio formed with Steve Vaughan and Rob Ellis... Now she continues as a solo artist :)
Ty for the nice comments :D
Wally
@ Wednesday, September 3rd 2008, 11:58 AM
very cool draw,well done ! :)
And for answer :) http://electricityandlust.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/pj-harvey.jpg
StGeorgeOfEngland
@ Wednesday, September 3rd 2008, 1:26 PM
Cool rendition of the pic that Wally linked us to. Still none the wiser though!
emigre
@ Wednesday, September 3rd 2008, 1:36 PM
WOOhoo bravo Wally ! c'est ton tour maintenant ! :D
and for all : http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=48GIaN7SrGU http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=8A83JorcLaU
Christine M B
@ Wednesday, September 3rd 2008, 1:39 PM
emigre
@ Wednesday, September 3rd 2008, 1:41 PM
merci ;)
Suntan
@ Wednesday, September 3rd 2008, 2:54 PM
Wow, what a great likeness~! Bravo, Wally.. :)
Wally
@ Wednesday, September 3rd 2008, 4:33 PM
It's my turn ?
Argh!! I didn't know... Like an idiot,I didn't read the front page :p (si j'avais su,j'aurais rien dit) Ok I will try :p
Meno
@ Wednesday, September 3rd 2008, 7:01 PM
A fantastic likeness, Emi! Even better than the original ;)
gel_o
@ Thursday, September 4th 2008, 5:06 PM
Wow, what a great pic...this is amazing!
BabsBlueEyes
@ Tuesday, September 9th 2008, 4:29 PM
very good draw emi
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gandalf
@ Wednesday, March 3rd 2010, 5:16 PM
Suntan
@ Tuesday, October 14th 2008, 9:38 PM
looks great, gandalf..JFK?
BabsBlueEyes
@ Tuesday, October 14th 2008, 11:00 PM
Great draw ... but ????
qtgillie
@ Tuesday, October 14th 2008, 11:08 PM
sparky7
@ Wednesday, October 15th 2008, 12:13 AM
Nice looking guy.....but I can't figure out who he might be??
ptrice
@ Wednesday, October 15th 2008, 12:14 AM
Alec Baldwin?
gandalf
@ Wednesday, October 15th 2008, 9:46 AM
BabsBlueEyes
@ Wednesday, October 15th 2008, 10:09 AM
Wow, How old is he here gandaff? It is a beautiful draw.
Meno
@ Wednesday, October 15th 2008, 10:29 AM
Knew it was JFK, just from the thumbnail ... well done!
emigre
@ Wednesday, October 15th 2008, 11:21 AM
Wow what a great portrait :) JFK ? i know only older JFK :)
Fabulous look :)
grace
@ Thursday, October 16th 2008, 11:51 AM
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@ Wednesday, March 3rd 2010, 5:16 PM
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ptrice
@ Tuesday, October 14th 2008, 2:16 PM
King.....Louis XIV? Fabulous style - so much fun, Emi!:)
Meno
@ Tuesday, October 14th 2008, 2:28 PM
I can't keep all those Louis's straight! I love his stern, pompous look, though!
grace
@ Tuesday, October 14th 2008, 4:16 PM
Suntan
@ Tuesday, October 14th 2008, 4:49 PM
haha..that's a great portrait, emi!
qtgillie
@ Tuesday, October 14th 2008, 6:12 PM
sparky7
@ Tuesday, October 14th 2008, 6:38 PM
"Wow"!! This one is really awesome!! I love how you did this! Great job!! :D
BabsBlueEyes
@ Tuesday, October 14th 2008, 7:10 PM
I don't know if this is Louis XIV, but it is a fabulous draw . He looks like a man of over indulgences. Not a happy looking fella either.
emigre
@ Wednesday, October 15th 2008, 11:19 AM
YAY ptrice :D lol
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gandalf
@ Wednesday, March 3rd 2010, 5:16 PM
Meno
@ Tuesday, October 21st 2008, 7:32 PM
Boris Karloff (born William Henry Pratt)? ... smoldering!
BabsBlueEyes
@ Tuesday, October 21st 2008, 11:37 PM
Great draw.
ptrice
@ Wednesday, October 22nd 2008, 2:01 AM
Yay, Gandalf! Awesome artistry and draftsmanship...and a great subject to booooooooot!:)
emigre
@ Wednesday, October 22nd 2008, 4:09 AM
This is wonderful :D The shadows are so well done on his skin :)
Suntan
@ Wednesday, October 22nd 2008, 3:05 PM
Fantastic, gandalf! really good work :)
STARZSHINE
@ Wednesday, October 22nd 2008, 4:43 PM
very nice work Gandalf, pretty good likeness, love the pen and ink drawing feel to this, with a touch of wash, nice work!
gandalf
@ Wednesday, October 22nd 2008, 8:04 PM
qtgillie
@ Wednesday, October 22nd 2008, 11:16 PM
Meno
@ Thursday, October 23rd 2008, 8:19 AM
Gandalf, YOU are too good, which is why it's easy to guess your draws! :)
sparky7
@ Thursday, October 30th 2008, 1:14 AM
Great portrait!!! Boris was a great actor.....he made many "horror" movies. My brother was one of his biggest "fans"!! Great job!! :)
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emigre
@ Wednesday, March 3rd 2010, 5:14 PM
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Meno
@ Sunday, November 23rd 2008, 6:49 AM
He looks like Roger Waters of Pink Floyd, my husband's all-time favorite group. But ... I'm probably wrong! It's still an amazing, vivid, arresting draw, nonetheless :)
sparky7
@ Sunday, November 23rd 2008, 10:53 AM
"WOW"!!!! I love this one!! I love music.....but I can't think of who this guy is. He does look familiar though.
Great picture!! :)
Suntan
@ Sunday, November 23rd 2008, 11:00 AM
ooh, good guess, meno. I have to go with that, too.
emigre
@ Sunday, November 23rd 2008, 2:17 PM
No Meno and Sun ;) try again ! :D
He is younger than Roger Water :)
ptrice
@ Sunday, November 23rd 2008, 2:45 PM
John Mellencamp?
Suntan
@ Sunday, November 23rd 2008, 3:32 PM
Not John Meyer? he sort of used to have bigger hair, idk..the big collar is throwing me off?
smws
@ Sunday, November 23rd 2008, 7:57 PM
I have no idea who this fellow is, but I really like the warm colors. You capture people so quickly! Also, it looks like he's playing a mandolin.
He looks a bit like James Dean but of course he can't be, if he's younger than Roger Waters.
qtgillie
@ Sunday, November 23rd 2008, 10:20 PM
emigre
@ Monday, November 24th 2008, 2:42 AM
Nope :)
He had a non common death in 1997... The title of his only album is the name of one of you wonderful "floatingginkgoers" ;)
ptrice
@ Monday, November 24th 2008, 4:02 AM
Jeff Buckley! Album name "Grace":) Found thru research!:) Excellent!:) Haven't heard his music yet, but his death certainly seems to have been terribly unfortunate. Are you a fan of his music, Emi?
emigre
@ Monday, November 24th 2008, 4:47 AM
YES ptrice !! :D you got it !
Here for grace ;) http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=siNsgbIWhAQ And here my favs :) http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=WolmjxD4hn4 http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=AratTMGrHaQ Hope you will enjoy :)
REECREATIVEDESIGNS
@ Monday, November 24th 2008, 7:53 AM
I love this one with all these warm rich colors. I wouldn't have guessed this. Beautiful, just beautiful.
I too love Pink Floyd...one of my all time fav bands, Meno.
grace
@ Monday, November 24th 2008, 2:41 PM
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emigre
@ Wednesday, March 3rd 2010, 5:13 PM
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Rogier
@ Wednesday, November 26th 2008, 8:24 AM
I think a young Shirley MacLaine.
Meno
@ Wednesday, November 26th 2008, 9:56 AM
Manet's Olympia ... and so very beautiful, Emi!
emigre
@ Wednesday, November 26th 2008, 12:34 PM
YAY Meno :D
Her name is Victorine Meurent :) she was the model of Manet :) Manet had good taste ;) Lol and i love how he paints :) im a big fan
BabsBlueEyes
@ Thursday, November 27th 2008, 9:27 AM
Womderful draw emi.
ptrice
@ Thursday, November 27th 2008, 11:16 AM
Beautiful work!
sparky7
@ Friday, November 28th 2008, 1:12 AM
I never heard of this lady....but it's a really fantastic picture!! Great job!! :)
grace
@ Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 9:36 AM
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qtgillie
@ Wednesday, March 3rd 2010, 5:13 PM
Meno
@ Sunday, November 30th 2008, 6:11 PM
Charles Bronson, Gillie?
StGeorgeOfEngland
@ Sunday, November 30th 2008, 6:17 PM
Heck yes.
qtgillie
@ Sunday, November 30th 2008, 7:10 PM
Meno
@ Sunday, November 30th 2008, 7:33 PM
Great job on capturing his rugged masculinity!
sparky7
@ Sunday, November 30th 2008, 7:41 PM
"WOW"!!! I love Charles Bronson...I think he was a great actor....I loved all of his movies, and I think he was a very ruggedly handsome guy. One of my favorite movies of his is called "Chato's Land". He plays a half breed Apache Indian, and let me tell you...I LOVE this movie!! By the way....Charles Bronson was originally from "Pennsylvania"....my home state!! "yaaayyy"!!! "LOL"!
Great portrait!! :)
ptrice
@ Monday, December 1st 2008, 12:21 AM
Cool! Great pic, Gillie!:)
BabsBlueEyes
@ Monday, December 1st 2008, 8:11 AM
You did an awesome job on this gillie.
suzie
@ Monday, December 1st 2008, 10:17 AM
Rogier
@ Monday, December 1st 2008, 3:15 PM
Bronson, awesome. Just awesome. Superb job.
Suntan
@ Monday, December 1st 2008, 9:33 PM
What a great face and what a great job on it! This is super work, gillie. I wish I could paint like this. :D
emigre
@ Tuesday, December 2nd 2008, 4:30 PM
Lol gillie its too well done ;) everyone would have recognise him :)
Excellent ! wow
Fuzzy
@ Tuesday, December 2nd 2008, 8:56 PM
Simply amazing, the skin tones are awesome *picks jaw up off keyboard* fantastic!
grace
@ Wednesday, December 3rd 2008, 9:38 AM
REECREATIVEDESIGNS
@ Thursday, December 4th 2008, 12:04 AM
Well, this is beautiful. I love the size of it, the skin coloring so tan...beautiful skin! You've really done a beautiful job with this.
StGeorgeOfEngland
@ Sunday, December 7th 2008, 3:10 PM
What a great choice. This is just stunning. Congrats on the GGA birthday girl.
BabsBlueEyes
@ Sunday, December 7th 2008, 4:01 PM
Couldn't stump us with this beautifully done draw. It is so well done,clear as the nose on a face. who it is is Great work gillie. You do fabulous work. Congrats sweet friend. Very deserving GGA
sparky7
@ Sunday, December 7th 2008, 5:11 PM
Congratulations "Gillie"!! This picture of Charles Bronson is just totally amazing....I love it!! What a great choice for the "GGA" award!! "Congrats"!! :)
Meno
@ Sunday, December 7th 2008, 6:17 PM
An awesome win and a nice belated b'day gift, as well! Great, great job, Gillie :) Congrats!
qtgillie
@ Sunday, December 7th 2008, 6:38 PM
ptrice
@ Sunday, December 7th 2008, 7:35 PM
Congratulations, Laura! I'm so happy to see your powerful powerful and accurate portrait win!
flubbles
@ Monday, December 8th 2008, 12:40 PM
well done , really good job.
REECREATIVEDESIGNS
@ Tuesday, December 9th 2008, 11:08 PM
Well, a late congrats to you. Sorry this is so late, I was out of town. I love this drawing of yours and you really deserved the award. And what a nice birthday week drawing too. Beautiful work!
emigre
@ Saturday, December 13th 2008, 5:40 PM
Oh i didnt add congratulations ? :)
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PS Kute, your link did not work, said something like it does not allow linkage. wierd, so i added a link up top.
comments. I don't know how they are getting typed in there. "Very strange indeed"!! "LOL"!! :O